Forget CA's Fair Pay Act for athletes

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badboy
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Forget CA's Fair Pay Act for athletes

Postby badboy » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:07 pm

what does it do to NCAA competition if every student gets free tuition as is now apparently the norm in New Mexico?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ailymailus

If everyone gets free tuition, there's no real need for athletic scholarships, right? Will players in non-revenue sports like water polo choose to play at a school that can only give them a partial scholarship when they could attend another university for free? Will free tuition be deemed payment by the NCAA? Will no-tuition schools now be able to carry more football players because the NCAA's 85 scholarship cap doesn't come into play? If every student gets free tuition, what then becomes of the "athletes shouldn't get paid - their scholarship is payment enough" argument? Non-athlete students get paid for all sorts of jobs - will the NCAA have to allow the same for athletes?

The times they are a changin'.

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Re: Forget CA's Fair Pay Act for athletes

Postby JackBurton » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:51 am

If you make less than $125,000 you don't pay tuition at Standford already. https://news.stanford.edu/2016/02/25/tu ... id-022516/

The NCAA seems fine with that policy so I don't see it being much of an issue for other colleges.

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Re: Forget CA's Fair Pay Act for athletes

Postby Rational » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:03 am

What about these damn kids at the Air Force Academy? Or Navy, West Point or Coast Guard? The get free tuition, free room, and meals covered. The freeloaders even get an allowance for their clothes, some call it a uniform, AND if that wasn't enough free stuff - they get PAID a paycheck while in school. And then over the summer, they get free boat or airplane rides, and travel to exotic places - all on the taxpayer's expense.

This is a TRAVESTY - Players being paid, impermissible travel benefits, will these "Service Academy's" (Should change name to Uncle Sam's Socialism School) be able to carry more football players? The NCAA better get involved before the whole system implodes.

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Re: Forget CA's Fair Pay Act for athletes

Postby Gobama » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:32 pm

Rational wrote:What about these damn kids at the Air Force Academy? Or Navy, West Point or Coast Guard? The get free tuition, free room, and meals covered. The freeloaders even get an allowance for their clothes, some call it a uniform, AND if that wasn't enough free stuff - they get PAID a paycheck while in school. And then over the summer, they get free boat or airplane rides, and travel to exotic places - all on the taxpayer's expense.

This is a TRAVESTY - Players being paid, impermissible travel benefits, will these "Service Academy's" (Should change name to Uncle Sam's Socialism School) be able to carry more football players? The NCAA better get involved before the whole system implodes.



I love this. You very clearly show the absurdity in all these discussions. Everyone is wringing their hands when every school has its advantages and disadvantgaes. NCAA revenue sports athletes are criminally underpaid, and non-revenue athletes deserve their scholarships, but d3 or non-scholarship schools with different tuition tiers are viable paths too. Just let the kids play, and let the kids who are making the major conferences billions at least make a few bucks for their trouble.

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Re: Forget CA's Fair Pay Act for athletes

Postby kwinin » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:57 pm

These programs aren't quite as nice as the headlines promise. If you read what is covered "Tuition" you already know it not the same as a full ride scholarship, which includes room and board. In addition, these programs are for residents so unlikely to be of any help in recruiting out of state. Lastly, and maybe the biggest kicker when you look at the student debt crisis, they are last dollar programs requiring the student to exhaust all other eligible scholarship and loan programs. Not necessarily the wrong approach but none of this is going to be much of a recruiting tool.
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