World Cup 2023

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World Cup 2023

Postby butterybarin10 » Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:21 pm

Rough first game for the U.S against Croatia at World League. Giving up 5+ counters, Weinberg letting up 10 goals in the first half, and lots of mistakes on offense is not gonna get it done! On the bright side, Cupido is looking great and has changed his game up, Abramson shows why he should have been there in Tokyo, and obviously Bowen and Hallock per the usual.
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Re: World League 2023

Postby WaPoSaD » Wed Mar 08, 2023 7:03 pm

Yeah, you're not going to win many games when your defense gives up 10 goals a half. (I prefer saying it that way to "Weinberg letting in 10 goals . . ." given, as you mention, the number of counters and the general shape of our defense that game.) I'll also say that, as other posts have mentioned in a different context, this game had somewhat of a "boys vs men" flavor; the average age of the "rebuilding" Croatian team was 28, whereas the average age of our players was 24.

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Re: World League 2023

Postby wpolo93 » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:28 pm

butterybarin10 wrote:Rough first game for the U.S against a rebuilding Croatia team at World League


That “rebuilding” as you say Croatian national team has 13 Euro 2022 champions. Just saying.

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Re: World League 2023

Postby Justafan22 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:58 pm

wpolo93 wrote:
butterybarin10 wrote:Rough first game for the U.S against a rebuilding Croatia team at World League


That “rebuilding” as you say Croatian national team has 13 Euro 2022 champions. Just saying.


Maybe it was meant to say "rebuilt" Croatian team. :-)

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Re: World League 2023

Postby wpolo93 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:37 pm

Justafan22 wrote:
wpolo93 wrote:
butterybarin10 wrote:Rough first game for the U.S against a rebuilding Croatia team at World League


That “rebuilding” as you say Croatian national team has 13 Euro 2022 champions. Just saying.


Maybe it was meant to say "rebuilt" Croatian team. :-)


Yep. It is true that Jokovic, Buslje, Loncar, Obradovic and Xavi Garcia all left after 2021. However, Croats rebuilt pretty fast. In particular, the lefty who scored 6 goals yesterday got his Croatian passport less than 2 years ago. I am not completely sure if he was allowed to played for Croats in Split last year. Probably he was. Basically, Croats did the same trick with Kharkov in 2022 as they did with Garcia in 2014- enticed an excellent lefty to switch his water polo nationality after he had played in the Croatian league for a few years.

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Re: World League 2023

Postby WaPoSaD » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:46 pm

US 13 - Japan 11. Went up 9-5 in the first half and held on.

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Re: World League 2023

Postby Corman49 » Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:49 am

USA 12 - France 9

Good win considering they were down for 4 minutes after Bowen was red carded. Never seen the refs stop a game, go to replay, and go back in time to red card someone… Daube stepped up big without him and our D looked much better with Holland in cage

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Re: World League 2023

Postby UberPolo » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:34 am

Idk of the red card was deserved or not, but the new rules allow the refs to go back and check for "aggressive play" at any time.
Btw, the rd carded player is now ineligible to play for TWO games, not just one

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Re: World League 2023

Postby ephpolo » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:20 pm

US, still with no Bowen, are just crushing Hungary. Up 13-5 at end of 3rd.

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Re: World League 2023

Postby butterybarin10 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:51 pm

Irving with 5. Guy is going to be at his peak next summer for Paris . Keeps getting better each year

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Re: World League 2023

Postby wpolo93 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:52 pm

15:9 final score!

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Re: World League 2023

Postby butterybarin10 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:53 pm

Justafan22 wrote:
wpolo93 wrote:
butterybarin10 wrote:Rough first game for the U.S against a rebuilding Croatia team at World League


That “rebuilding” as you say Croatian national team has 13 Euro 2022 champions. Just saying.


Maybe it was meant to say "rebuilt" Croatian team. :-)


Yes I did mean rebuilt :lol:

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Re: World League 2023

Postby ephpolo » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:22 pm

What are the advancement rules for the next round?

Depending on results tomorrow, there could be three teams that are all 3-2.

A US win over Italy seems unlikely but not impossible. Based on results so far, I'd say Croatia-Hungary is a toss up. It will be interesting to see how Hungary reacts to today's big loss.

I've always thought Irving was a key defender and ball handler, and he's always picked up some key goals. It's really nice to see him growing into a major scoring threat.

Does the US capitalize on momentum and send the same starters again tomorow? I think Bowen still has a game to sit out, right?

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Re: World League 2023

Postby ephpolo » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:48 pm

One other question--does anyone know where we can find box scores or any game information other than total score?

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Re: World League 2023

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