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by LABertocci
Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:01 pm
Forum: US Mens National Water Polo Team
Topic: Junior World Championships
Replies: 66
Views: 22429

Re: Junior World Championships

... Does anybody still think that we are a true worldwide sport? All you have to do is take a look at the under 18 World Youth Championships and see that it is not a world sport at all... I am actually growing a little frustrated in the effort to change the sport and make it better; because very fe...
by LABertocci
Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:49 pm
Forum: US Mens National Water Polo Team
Topic: Junior World Championships
Replies: 66
Views: 22429

Re: Junior World Championships

re: The only thing I can think of is that someone believes more scoring = more entertaining. ... And the 'advantage rule'? You saw it a number of times in the Olympics - an exclusion would be called immediately before a shot would go in - which would take away that goal, and as often as not the 6-on...
by LABertocci
Wed May 02, 2012 8:10 am
Forum: New News and Posts
Topic: New Articles for May 1 Home Page
Replies: 14
Views: 2241

Re: New Articles for May 1 Home Page

floodpolo wrote: smear


To "smear" is to tell a lie. To report is to provide facts. The original article provided facts. As my PhD advisor used to say, "facts remain facts even if you choose to ignore them."
by LABertocci
Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:36 pm
Forum: The Quicker Kicker Outer
Topic: Comments about home page article - perimeter fouls
Replies: 20
Views: 3164

Re: Comments about home page article - perimeter fouls

... Let's hope threads like this and the WPA help everyone learn how things should be. Way back when, I created the WPA for the "greater good" and happily partnered with any and all. After four years, it is clear that the market has changed. Although I am not throwing out the stuff I put ...
by LABertocci
Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:56 am
Forum: The Quicker Kicker Outer
Topic: Comments about home page article - perimeter fouls
Replies: 20
Views: 3164

Re: Comments about home page article - perimeter fouls

First of all, BRAVO Dante! You hit the nail on the head. In no particular order, a few thoughts for the group: Part of the error comes from misapplication of a very simple concept:"initiation of contact." The following text from Lesson 4 of Minor Fouls illustrates this: o Two fundamental (...
by LABertocci
Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:52 pm
Forum: The Quicker Kicker Outer
Topic: Fouls On Perimeter With Both Hands Down
Replies: 34
Views: 4699

Re: Fouls On Perimeter With Both Hands Down

... our team and coach was confused... Confused coaches are a SOP. Adjust. Coaches systematically have elected to be ACTIVELY ignorant about what referees are taught to do. You have one of those coaches. Adjust. Or not. Your choice. ... my understanding was that team captains were to approach offic...
by LABertocci
Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:48 pm
Forum: The Quicker Kicker Outer
Topic: Fouls On Perimeter With Both Hands Down
Replies: 34
Views: 4699

Re: Fouls On Perimeter With Both Hands Down

... This happens various times in this game (and in other games all weekend at the tournament with this official on the games)... "Various" is NOT a good adjective for a referee. ... no positional advantage being taken away... How do you define "advantage?" After five years of W...
by LABertocci
Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:45 pm
Forum: The Quicker Kicker Outer
Topic: Fouls On Perimeter With Both Hands Down
Replies: 34
Views: 4699

Re: Fouls On Perimeter With Both Hands Down

Background: Playing in a collegiate game (not D-I) this past weekend in CA. CA school. Truly, no one cares that it was in CA. Truly. After five years of $1,000,000s poured into the ODP, there is no evidence that CA matters. Truly. Just check out the results of our USA teams (all CA players) at the ...
by LABertocci
Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:00 pm
Forum: Referee Training
Topic: Advantage and The Center
Replies: 4
Views: 4582

Re: Advantage and The Center

Loren, I have a quick question about defending 2m. In the eyes of the ref to what degree does (2m D) have the right to protect his ball side defense in a full front? Pending the deep wing defenders are doing their job preventing the ball from getting to the 1 and 5 positions. I have played in sever...
by LABertocci
Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:35 am
Forum: The Quicker Kicker Outer
Topic: Referee and Coach Training
Replies: 15
Views: 2346

Re: Congratulations to Mark Koganov

I have heard that the Italians weren't too happy with Rotsart (USA) in the Italian-Russian semi-final (women). Inadequate was the word that was used. Dante D. This is unfortunate and, sadly, another indictment of the state of US water polo. Perhaps we need an adequate national referee training prog...
by LABertocci
Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:18 pm
Forum: The Quicker Kicker Outer
Topic: Congratulations to Mark Koganov
Replies: 5
Views: 1503

Re: Congratulations to Mark Koganov

H2Opolo1961 wrote:To be fair however, he owes his success, at least in part, to someone by the name of Loren Bertocci.

Please do not dilute Mark's accomplishments. Mark is a success by HIS efforts, HIS skills, and HIS intelligence. I am just pleased to be his friend.
by LABertocci
Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:29 pm
Forum: The Quicker Kicker Outer
Topic: Congratulations to Mark Koganov
Replies: 5
Views: 1503

Re: Congratulations to Mark Koganov

For those of you who are at all curious, go back through the history books and see if you can EVER find a water polo referee so accomplished that he is appointed to the most important game in the entire world for THREE STRAIGHT YEARS . I am quite confident it will be a fruitless search. This puts Ma...
by LABertocci
Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:34 pm
Forum: New News and Posts
Topic: Mens World League Results
Replies: 124
Views: 17925

Re: Mens World League Results

There may come a time when I will weigh in more than this on this forum. After all, for many years, I have been a big supporter of the creation of a pro semi-pro league in the United States, linked to the training of our national team. For now, let me offer this: to the extent our best mens players ...
by LABertocci
Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:53 pm
Forum: Referee Training
Topic: June 2011 Recertification Deadline
Replies: 2
Views: 3044

Re: June 2011 Recertification Deadline

OK, now that we are past whatever was the previous (unless it has changed again) deadline, I am no longer able to (interested in?) providing all of you with "deadline" information. What I will assure you is that if the sections are large enough, we will offer our entire curriculum to those...
by LABertocci
Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:25 pm
Forum: New News and Posts
Topic: News Articles for the July 1 Home Page
Replies: 1
Views: 611

Re: News Articles for the July 1 Home Page

re: Interview with Ricardo Azevedo New 07/01 by Joan Gould Coaching Water Polo: It's Time to Trash the Cookie Cutter Almost a decade ago, I remember sitting at Los Al watching a very physical international game being played by two teams that were not friends. This game was not refereed by a USA refe...

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