USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

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USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby ephpolo » Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:44 pm

You would not know it from the website or the FB page, but our women's team played the Netherlands in an exhibition today as their last tune up before the Fina World League Tournament. Stats here https://output.6-8sports.com/
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US was up big early, and up 11-8 at the end of the third, but Netherlands made it a game in the 4th. If anyone finds recorded video, please share. USA Water Polo probably won't.

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby OCPoloDad » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:40 am

Team announcement for FINA. Some BIG names not participating, taking a break. Youth in the Field will be driving this bus.

https://usawaterpolo.org/news/2022/10/1 ... spain.aspx

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby wpolo93 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:34 pm

To be fair, the Netherlands were also missing some key players- five, to be exact: four playing in Spain and one more playing in Greece.

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby ephpolo » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:00 pm

Two wins--over the Netherlands 9-6 and Canada 11-5.

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby OCPoloDad » Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:31 am

ephpolo wrote:Two wins--over the Netherlands 9-6 and Canada 11-5.


11-10 over Italy.

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby ephpolo » Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:21 pm

I watched the last 3 quarters. Weird game. US was up 5-2 after 1. Italy outscored them 6-3 in the second and third to tie, then took a one goal lead early in the fourth before the US pulled back ahead. US looked pretty dominant the last several possessions in the fourth, once they had the 1 goal lead, but defense was pretty shaky there for a while. Hungary in the semifinals

I watched part of the Spain-Hungary game, and the Spanish looked really strong. If the US gets past Hungary, I don't they'll will beat Spain if they don't put together 4 strong quarters--which seemed to be a problem in their games with Netherlands and Italy.

Playing like a team with a lot of young players--which is of course what they are.

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby polo45 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:09 pm

wpolo93 wrote:To be fair, the Netherlands were also missing some key players- five, to be exact: four playing in Spain and one more playing in Greece.


I think your information is off here. Yes they were missing some players but I don't think 5 is accurate. Can you name the 5 players who didn't play for the Dutch team?

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby wpolo93 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:37 pm

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby wpolo93 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:40 pm

polo45 wrote:
wpolo93 wrote:To be fair, the Netherlands were also missing some key players- five, to be exact: four playing in Spain and one more playing in Greece.


I think your information is off here. Yes they were missing some players but I don't think 5 is accurate. Can you name the 5 players who didn't play for the Dutch team?


I think it was very clear that I wrote about the exhibition game at the end of October, right before the tournament. My message was posted on October 29th, before the World League tournament started and the title of the thread is "USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11"- right?

Afaik, the Spanish legionaries (Sevenich, van de Kraats, Bosbeld and Ten Droek) joined the Dutch team in Santa Cruz. They did not play in Holland. Also, a Greek league player (Iris Wolves) did not play at that exhibition game as well. All five played for the Netherlands in their 6-9 loss to the USA at Santa Cruz. And they did not play at Utrecht on October 28th.

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby wpolo93 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:30 pm

USA will play Netherlands, for the third time in nine days, in the bronze medals game after losing to Hungary 9:10 in a semifinal. We have a young and very talented team and the loss should not be overdramatized. At full strength, USA still has the strongest team in the world. But the competitors are getting closer, imho.

In the gold medals game, Spain are probably the favorites.

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby SwimCoach » Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:22 pm

They were missing a lot of familiar names, but still a tough loss for the US women.

When is the last time that they have not won gold at a tournament?

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby wpolo93 » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:40 am

SwimCoach wrote:
When is the last time that they have not won gold at a tournament?


USA lost to China, in China, in a semifinal of the 2013 World League and finished 3rd there.

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby LimeyPoloDad » Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:06 pm

wpolo93 wrote: We have a young and very talented team and the loss should not be overdramatized. At full strength, USA still has the strongest team


Who were we missing, who will likely be on the team for the next Olympic cycle?

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Re: USA Women beat Netherlands in 12-11

Postby OCPoloDad » Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:19 pm

LimeyPoloDad wrote:
wpolo93 wrote: We have a young and very talented team and the loss should not be overdramatized. At full strength, USA still has the strongest team


Who were we missing, who will likely be on the team for the next Olympic cycle?


Steffens, Musselman, Gilchrist and Haralabidis. Steffens is the all time Olympic scorer and GOAT, and my opinion is that Musselman can take that scoring spot if she stays healthy for the duration of her career. Having lefty Haralabidis also has a tremendous arm combined with the leadership experience of Gilchrist would as Limey puts it; USA still has the strongest team. Talent pool is still deep despite this loss (part of the growing pains) to Hungary. And can't forget the Gold Medal team lost early in the Olympics to Hungary

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